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5 Tips to Make Sales and Marketing Live Happily Ever After

 

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happily ever afterThis is a guest blog post written by David Kirkpatrick. He is a reporter for MarketingSherpa, covering the B2B and consumer marketing beats. He is also a guest blogger for HubSpot at Dreamforce '11 this week.

Marketing and sales alignment is a topic I've covered often in MarketingSherpa case studies and SherpaBlog posts. In fact, if you make it to one of the upcoming MarketingSherpa B2B Summits, you'll likely get a dose or two of this topic. Because I enjoy the concept so much, I eagerly anticipated the breakout session at Dreamforce, "So Happy Together!: Bridging the Gap Between Sales & Marketing." The presentation featured HubSpot's Business Systems Manager Leah Norris (who represented the marketing side) and Nancy Kamerer, account executive and former senior director of sales development at Salesforce.com, who represented the sales side.

Nancy described some of the main challenges of getting Marketing and Sales to work in tandem:

The Sales Point of View: "We're not getting enough leads, the leads we get are bad, and the data we're using is bad, too."

The Marketing Point of View: "Sales never follows up on the leads we send them, Sales doesn't update the status of leads, and Marketing never gets enough credit for closed deals."

Nancy also provided five actions that can improve this disconnect between the two departments:

5 Ways to Improve Sales & Marketing Alignment

1. Make an Agreement: Sales and Marketing should work together to define a common agreement on what constitutes "success."

2. Agree on Certain Definitions: Sales and Marketing should have common definitions for terms used in their agreements. Two terms they should definitely agree on the meaning of include "lead" and "converted opportunity."

3. Create Accessible Dashboards: Leave the guessing out of it. Dashboards provide accountability, visibility, credibility (by offering ROI figures), and can serve as a single source of truth for results that both teams can access. This eliminates the possibility for Sales to accuse Marketing of under-delivering on results, and vice versa (unless the data proves it!).

4. Use Collaborative Tools: The departments should use online tools to regularly collaborate and keep each other aware of various programs, progress, and results. Great tools for this include a corporate, internal wiki, and as we mentioned above, online report dashboards.

5. Improve Lead Quality: The sheer number of leads often isn't enough to satisfy a company's leads needs. Part of your sales and marketing agreement should also include requirements for lead quality, too. Quality leads result in better customers, and as a byproduct, more money.

Why "SMarketing"?

"The biggest thing for us [at HubSpot]," said Leah, "is aligning Sales and Marketing so Marketing has specific goals and accountability and both teams can be successful."

Leah added that one way to accomplish this is to create specific lead generation goals, such as lead volume by types of leads. For example, a qualified lead at HubSpot includes potential customers who request a demo or a free trial.

When Sales and Marketing are in agreement, there is more transparency and openness between the functions, which means everyone understands the common success they are aiming for.

How important is Marketing/Sales alignment at HubSpot? Leah said the concept is called "SMarketing" at the company. Holding regular meetings on understanding dashboard data, which are attended by both departments, is what leads to SMarketing harmony.

Furthermore, Sales operations and Marketing operations meet weekly -- it might even be an informal lunch meeting -- to review results. If the numbers aren't getting reached, changes are made quickly to adjust the marketing budget or realign sales reps to ensure both teams are hitting their goals.

And what's the most important takeaway for getting -- and keeping -- Marketing and Sales so happy together? "Addressing issues in real time leads to real time success," said Leah.

How do you ensure your sales and marketing teams are living happily ever after? Do you have a so-called "SMarketing" agreement in place at your company?

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Posted by Jeanne Hopkins on Fri, Sep 02, 2011 @ 11:00 AM

COMMENTS

So what do you have beyond leads? Leades are just one of the steps in developing awarness to decision reinforcement. How else should marketing and sales cooperate? Let's elevate the discusssion.

posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 at 11:11 AM by Chuck Byers


Hi Chuck - 
 
I think the biggest disagreement between sales and marketing occurs because they are not on the same page on what constitutes a good lead. And, once that is established, with the ground rules, then you can measure the effectiveness of the marketing organization in delivering leads that convert to customers, and the willingness of the sales organization to touch the leads that marketing has delivered. What else would you like to see in the discussion? 
 
Jeanne

posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 at 11:54 AM by Jeanne Hopkins


The 5 Tips to Make Sales and Marketing Live Happily Ever After was really a great info for us in the field of online business. I'm really glad to read like this info.. Thank you so much for sharing this and looking forward with your more post.  
 

posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 at 1:12 PM by Queencel Cristobal


I think there are 2 major challenges for sales and marketing alignment. 
 
First, as Jeanne identified, is the need for a common definition of a lead, along with the programs needed to attract and generate those leads. 
 
I think the second big area for alignment is an agreement of marketing's role AFTER the lead is generated - i.e. how can marketing add value from a tools, templates, messaging and nurturing perspective to help move the inquiry through the funnel into a closed deal. In too many organizations, there's a barrier that says "Marketing, you produce leads, and then sales will take all the responsibility from there." Breaking that barrier is critical for true sales and marketing alignment.

posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 at 2:43 PM by Terry Flaherty


Hi Terry - 
 
I agree that Marketing needs to continue nurturing the leads that have been created, and measuring the reconversions on the leads in the database from new content & offers created. We generated 44,500 new leads for Sales in August AND ~100K reconversions. The reconversions can have more value because the lead has raised their hand AGAIN to understand the topic and get more information.  
 
Jeanne

posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 at 2:49 PM by Jeanne Hopkins


I really love all the points in this article. What struck me most is your emphasis on improving lead quality. We can increase more sales (and have a happy marketing story) by nurturing our leads. Remember that they are people who deserve conversations rather than treating them as a hot list of prospects in the future.

posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 at 12:01 AM by Jon


Trying to really present excellent and in-depth data without giving away all your techniques/strategies can be tough. Building relationships with your leads is key, take the time to do it right.

posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 at 3:02 AM by Mason S


Great article. I'd like to add that Sales and Marketing alignment is rooted in change management. That means people, process and technology in that order. You're right that collaboration and tools around leads is important but the biggest step forward to alignment is when sales and marketing leadership develop common goals and shared metrics. These then need to be cascaded down the two organizations and reflected in how teams are managed and measured. Why? because alignment is more than just leads. It's about building agile organizations that can are responsive to market conditions. If you enjoyed this post your might enjoy 'lessons from the aligned' at http://christinecrandell.com/2010/07/lessons-from-the-aligned/ and an upcoming webinar on alignment at http://christinecrandell.com/2011/08/join-me-for-a-free-webinar-on-alignment/.

posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 at 10:39 AM by Christine Crandell


Interesting article. Our clients have definitely ran into problems in the past with the issues between sales and marketing! A great dashboard and good quality leads are great advice.  
 
Here is a story i would like to share with you from a motor industry client. 
 
http://cltrx.com/b/34 
 
The client was running an event that the marketing team had come up with. A flyer was sent out by marketing to potential customers. Sales were tasked with following up and calling the potential clients to book appointments for the event. The sales team reported having made lots of calls but said the leads were simply not very good. Unfortunately for the sales team we had been monitoring the volume of calls and of course, recording them. When we reported our findings to the client, guess what... less than 1% of clients had actually been called and worse still those calls were made the week of the event, not 3 weeks prior as tasked.  
 
The result, the campaign failed. Suffice to say the client was less than impressed. The client then went back to his sales team to ask individual sales managers how many calls were made and what the quality was like. The lie continued with them blaming ‘the climate’ or ‘poor quality leads’. The client then showed the sales managers our monitoring system. Each and every sales manager was caught out. On the days the sales managers and their teams were supposed to stay and prospect, once the sales manager left, yes you guessed it, so did the rest of the team.  
 
The client re ran the campaign ensuring the sales teams called all potential customers that had previously been sent an invite, inviting them in for a second event. The event was a total success. The client now uses our prospecting system for all sales calls and offered me the following stats: 
 
20 calls needed per an appointment, 3 appointments for a sale with an average profit of £1000 per sale. I can report that during the month of August our client made 30,000 calls which would be a profit of £500,000, not bad for the motor industry during a holiday month.  

posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 at 9:06 AM by Rebecca Gregory


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