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Even after decades of advancement in computer technology, there are some tasks that humans are just superior at doing.  One of those things is evaluating the quality of a website.  The most dominant search engines are all computer based today because of the vast pace at which content is published online.  However, this was not always the case.  Back in the 1990's when the Internet was just a small set of interconnected tubes [smile] a number of websites tried using people to review and list websites in a directory and use that directory to power search results.  The idea was that humans could do a better job of deciding if a website was good or not and should be included in search results.

In fact, that is still true today.  A human can do a much better job than Google of looking at a website and deciding if the content is good and it is a quality website.  Computerized search engines have won the search engine battle, because to review all of the websites on the Internet using people would be cost prohibitive and time consuming given the explosion of content on the web.  We prefer search engines that are always including new content that was just published and that search nearly all of the web.  But human reviewed directories still do a good job of only including good websites, even if they only include a small percentage of the overall Internet.  And because of this, the computerized search engines look at the human reviewed directories as a list of websites that are more trustworthy than other websites.

Getting your company listed in a human reviewed drectory is sort of like getting into a good college.  It doesn't mean you are smart, but it means a human looked at your application and thought you are smart.  It is also somewhat expensive and time consuming.  But, just like a good college on your resume sends a positive message to potential employers, getting listed in a human reviewed directory sends a positive message to the search engines.

Here are four of the better human reviewed directories, along with a bit of info on how to use them.

Four Directories That Should Include Your Company

  1. DMOZ - The name for DMOZ.org comes from directory.mozilla.org, the original name/location of the directory.  Because it is all volunteer run, it can take a long time (months, sometimes never) for them to act upon your request to get listed.  Only sites that have some history to them and decent content get listed.  Here are the instructions for suggesting your website for listing in DMOZ.
  2. Yahoo Directory - Like DMOZ, the Yahoo Directory started as a way to use humans to screen websites for quality and use those as part of search results.  The good news about Yahoo is that they act pretty fast on your submission (a week).  The bad news is that it costs you $299/year.  Here is information about listing your website in the Yahoo Directory.
  3. Business.com Directory - The Business.com directory is another human reviewed directory.  Like Yahoo, they will review your website quickly, but they also charge $199 for the first year and $149 annually after that.  Here is information about listing your website in the Business.com directory.
  4. ZoomInfo - ZoomInfo is a newer website than the other three.  It is also not really a completely human reviewed directory, but it does have a verification method to edit your company listing and it uses trustworthy sources (other than your own website) to build your company profile.  Also unlike the other three that really just have a link to your company, ZoomInfo has a full profile on your company, so that page sometimes shows up in search results.  The other great news is that it is free.  Just got to ZoomInfo, search for your company name, click on the result, and on the page that shows your company name and website, click the edit link.  You'll have to create an account and verify through email you work at the company.  If your company is not listed, they don't have a great way to get it listed, but you can use this form to make a request.

SEO kit


 

Posted by Mike Volpe on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 @ 10:43 AM

COMMENTS

DMOZ? Is that thing still up? I thought it imploded from all the strife between the mods. That place is now an irrelevant waste of space.

posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 at 7:37 PM by Chuck


Yeah, DMOZ is still up. It certainly does not get lots of traffic, but the links are still valued by search engines.

posted on Saturday, December 22, 2007 at 7:24 AM by Mike Volpe


Yeah, DMOZ is still up.
But I submitted my site there three months ago, and they are still to add it. :(

posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 at 11:32 PM by Soumik


Do you think yahoo & business.com offer value for money? If so at what point in a website/businesses development should they take the plunge and pay the fees? What if they don't want to risk the investment?

posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 4:22 PM by James


Sorry another question! Would just paying for the first year listings create the initial flow of traffic which would then be maintained organically in later years?

posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 4:25 PM by James


@James - I think for medium and larger businesses they provide value. Or for smaller businesses that want to become a lot bigger. The reason for the listings is not for traffic, it is as part of your overall internet presence. You will get surprisingly little traffic from these.
This is one of those things that fall under "if you have to ask how much it is, you can't afford it". If I only had $5000 to spend on Internet marketing for a year, I would not buy those links. I would (1) buy Hubspot [of course] and read the methodology we have on how to be an expert at Internet marketing, (2) produce a lot of content on my website and blog powered by HubSpot, (3) spend a little bit of money on PPC ads using HubSpot powered landing pages, (4) engage in social media according to the HbuSpot methodology, and (5) create strong calls to action and landing pages on my own website.

posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 4:49 PM by Mike Volpe


That's great article, i know that dmoz is the biggest directory and hope my site will get listed there soon, but i don't want to submit it unless it becomes a bit popular

posted on Monday, February 25, 2008 at 6:44 AM by hot celebrities pictures


I am glad that I am on DMOZ, but am not so sure if I want to pay for Yahoo and Business.com.

posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 10:50 AM by Kiwi Sun Photography


Once you submit your website on DMOZ, can you edit any changes?

posted on Friday, February 29, 2008 at 1:21 AM by sme


Yahoo Directory has been slow to repond - Zoominfo has been painfully slow to respond and so has DMOZ - I'd rather pay them a few bucks and have the thing work than have it be free and take a year to get listed. When you read the rhetoric on DMOZ - its pretty clear it got started by granola eaters. Great concept - full of idealism - likely needs to be changed drastically to succeed.

posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 at 11:44 AM by Matt


I have not had any luck with Live.com. I summited my sitewww.specialzedfloorcare.com to Google, Yahoo and the other search engine and directories. All have index my pages except live.com. Only one page by them. I posted a comment similar to this on their blog and the answer I got was that I need to have more quality links. My question is, If Google and Yahoo index me with the same amount and type of links then why can't live.com index more than one page?

posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 at 10:33 PM by Willy


We submitted our site 2 years ago and never heard anything... but it says not to resubmit.
My next tactic is to volunteer as an editor and make it clear I'd be planning on submitting our site along with others.

posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 at 12:54 AM by Dan


Oops. Forgot to mention that I was talking about DMOZ there.
Maybe I'm not cut out to be an editor.

posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 at 12:56 AM by Dan


There is intrinsic value to each of the directories listed here, regardless of cost. I agree with Mike that if you've limited budget, it may make sense to hold-off on Yahoo. But the time it takes to create an ideal listing according to Best Practices, and submit to the top dozen directories in your market is phenomenal long-term.
You page rank, overall credibility and just knowing you are adding one more proven element to your SEO strategy is where it's at.
We consider this essential. And the folks at HubSpot have definitely nailed SEO best practices.
best of success to you,
Mark Alan Effinger
www.RichContent.com

posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 9:06 PM by Mark Alan Effinger


Thanks for this well-written article full of helpful information. I'll be listing my site http://greatcollegeadvice.com right away!

posted on Monday, April 21, 2008 at 10:55 PM by Mark M


My understanding is that Yahoo Directory was easily worth the $299. HubSpot speaks highly of it and so do my associates in the SEO world. I'm going to use if for my sitewww.60SecondMarketer.com.
All the best,
Jamie Turner
Editor
www.60SecondMarketer.com

posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 at 6:07 PM by Jamie Turner


Hi Jamie,
The Yahoo! Directory is definitely worth it. If you visit a site likewww.URLtrends.com, then do a little site analysis, you'l see how important Yahoo-based directory and backlinks are in the total weight of your link strategy.
It's only $299. Unless you have absolutely no budget, and no revenue model, it will pay for itself (directly) within the first 6-12 weeks after going live.
Best,
ME

posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 at 6:17 PM by Mark Alan Effinger


Thank You for the most excellent and easy to follow instructions. I appreciate the work that you have put into this site.

posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 at 10:05 PM by Dennis


Thank you HubSpot for an insightful, fact-based rundown of the value of these sights. Here atwww.gThankYou.com we are a small, retail e-commerce operation and place high value on such great advice. Rick

posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 at 9:21 PM by Rick Kiley


so in about 6-12 weeks and you'll see a difference? wow, maybe it is worth it. I have a real estate website that gets like zero to no hits, (although it's only 30 days old). I'm trying to get it more exposure by having my associates click on it around the world. I heard that helps.

posted on Monday, May 05, 2008 at 1:02 PM by Frank Bailey


I posted a request to DMOZ 6 months ago but never heard back. The team thinks we will postwww.halfpricebob.com to Yahoo directory next. by the way, if you havent checked outwww.websitegrader.com i would highly reccoment it! its free!

posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 at 2:14 PM by Dean


I looked into submittingwww.expedientmedstaff.com into the business.com directory and the annual fee has gone up to $299/yr... it is listed above at $199/yr...just posting the clarification.

posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 at 3:35 PM by Mike


In my opinion, DMOZ has many very old sites, most of them is anavailable, broken or not developed since 90-s, It is frustrating, so I don't use DMOZ.

posted on Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 8:38 PM by Asya


I am trying to get listed in DMOZ, and it has been a couple months, do you think that they won't list me? I don't think i will get listed in Yahoo Directory, or Business.com Directory, and ZoomInfo hasn't had there company submit form online for a while, anyone have an idea on when i will be able to submit to that?

posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 at 6:25 PM by MIBearings LLC


soy una mujer linda y ermosa cundo me buscan me encuentra

posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 4:47 PM by leidi


I do not know why everybody keep saying to submit your site to dmoz. I tried to do it several times over years for different sites, including my currentwww.olegshpak.com and never got any response from them. Then I tried to become an editor and every time got rejected without any meaningful reason. Meanwhile for all those years there was no new additons to categories that I am interested in. I say, dmoz looks like not functional.

posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 9:34 PM by Oleg Shpak


I was about to submit my interactive advertising company - http://influenzamedia.com to DMOZ but it seems to me that that website has gone stale.
Also, don't forget to list your business on YellowPages! The listing is free the last time I checked.

posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 at 12:06 PM by Peter Kao


I first submittedwww.littlepixiegifts.com.au to DMOZ about 2 years ago. Then again recently. Still not listed. It is a waste of space to use for searches yourself, but the experts still say it's worth the effort, and it is free. I'll submit every six months and see if I eventually get in. I would love some sort of analysis of what effect a Yahoo Dir sub has on Google rankings and PR. Thx for a great article.

posted on Monday, June 09, 2008 at 6:04 AM by Darren Johnson


Submitted http://www.braemarequityrelease.co.uk to dmoz a year ago, still no result. Seems to be a waste of time

posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 2:15 PM by jon allen


DMOZ is a waste of time. I submitted http://www.cornerstonejewelrydesigns.com about 3 years ago with no luck. I'm going to give the Yahoo! Directory a shot to see if that helps.

posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 1:45 PM by Purity Rings


It was very helpful resource in my overall research about off site search engine optimization. Thanks a lot. By the way the annual price for Business.com directory went up from $199 to $299.. Good luck and all the best ;)

posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 8:01 PM by Andrei reounov


I have been working on getting my companywww.loanspeed.com in the right directories for a long time now. According to my web developers and IT support team Yahoo Directories is the place to start. You need to think of the money you are losing waiting on the side lines for a free option to arise. If you pay it and you don't see any return on the investment then don't renew the next year. At least that is the mind set I am using for right now. I'm signing up right now so I will write again later and let you all know if its helping.

posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 9:38 PM by Jeffrey


A great article. Thanks for sharing!

posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 9:58 PM by 4all2all


DMOZ is hit and miss. NOONE ever uses it to look up anything anymore, but search engines particularly google still give you a boost for being in it. 
 
 
 
Funny thing is our company website http://www.adproducts.com.au has been submitted 2 or 3 times over the last couple years with never any luck, trying a couple different categories. In comparision a website I do for a friend http://www.nationalstockyards.com.au got listed on the first try after a few weeks in a very small regional category, but not in a major category. Must just be a case of different moderators.

posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 at 9:02 AM by Matthew Cummins


Yeah I submitted <a href="www.flatpackamigos.co.uk>my site ages ago to DMOZ and a host of others, they seem to take for ever to come through though. I am reluctant to spend £150 on Yahoo at the moment though, how much difference does it really make?

posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 at 4:25 AM by Edwin


Yeah I submitted my site ages ago to DMOZ and a host of others, they seem to take for ever to come through though. I am reluctant to spend £150 on Yahoo at the moment though, how much difference does it really make?

posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 at 4:26 AM by Edwin


I have tried for the last 2 years to submit my tampa real estate sitewww.flapropertyfinder.com to DMOZ but never had any success.

posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 at 10:00 AM by FlaPropertyFinder


I submitted my website to ZoomInfo and all appears fine. However, for some reason unknown by me, websitegrader.com does not recognize my site. Is there some reason why this is so?

posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 at 5:17 PM by Gary


Thanks for the info. I have submitted Where hearts Go - Free Online Dating and advice to dmoz but with little effect. Considering yahoo but since I have no budget (free site, ad based, but no traffic...) I am not sure it is worth it..

posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 at 10:13 PM by Charlie


Excellent article. 
 
What we're also seeing is a trend toward seeing other social media sites as reference directories.  
 
As you mentioned: ZoomInfo, DMOZ and Yahoo!, Business.com, etc... are excellent directories. 
 
In addition, we're finding that specific video, image, article and PR sites are becoming established brands (with highly credible associations) and provide exceptional backlinks and Google SERPs. 
 
I'd really like to see a list of these online media sites that sorts by credibility, value, industry, etc... 
 
I think I just found the next big project for one of our employees. 
 
Thanks again for the great insights. 
Mark Alan Effinger 
www.RichContent.tv 
www.ThoughtOffice.com

posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 at 12:58 PM by Mark Alan Effinger


$299/ year for a Yahoo listing! I think not. Submitting to DMOZ suits me just fine - even if it takes them six months to actualy process the submission. There's no need spending that kind of money trying to publicize a website.

posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 at 3:06 AM by Stephen


My site is do well for our keywords with google but when it comes to yahoo searches, we never come up. Does yahoo expect more links or that my domain needs to be older. Can someone please help.

posted on Saturday, July 19, 2008 at 3:27 PM by Russell


<My website is <a href="http://www.alarmsecurityaz.com>

posted on Saturday, July 19, 2008 at 3:30 PM by Russell


sorry it iswww.alarmsecurityaz.com

posted on Saturday, July 19, 2008 at 3:32 PM by Russell


Among other things, we ran a back link check on our competitors and then listed our site on every free site we could find, like yellow pages as someone has suggested. The combined efforts seem to be working all right for us. We operate a niche business and have a google PR of 4 after just three months. We are holding off on yahoo - still not convinced! 
 
http://www,pandltranslations.com

posted on Monday, July 28, 2008 at 12:53 PM by Janine


How long does it take for DMOZ to list a new site? 
linksharez.com

posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 at 11:50 AM by John


Great article! I'm not to encouraged by what I'm hearing about DMOZ though. I submitted one of our sites, www.doorknobdiscountcenter.com. I'll wait to see what happens or reason for rejection before submitting others. Any tips on getting listed besides what's here?

posted on Friday, August 08, 2008 at 5:50 PM by Bob Bardel


I'm trying to get my websitewww.aphotelgroup.com listed on DMOZ but can't seem to get onto it - its been a few months now. Press release websites work well for me though. 
 

posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 at 3:17 AM by Huw


first of all on DMOZ, rule of thumb, submit your URL and forget about it. every time you submit your URL to dmoz, it goes to the end of a (huge) line. Second of all, even if no one searches dmoz, its a very well ranked website according to google, if you are added to dmoz, google.com will give you better ranking. same goes for other websites. These are one of the basics of SEO

posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 at 10:53 PM by Maria Manjelo Photography


Are there any other good human edited directories out there?

posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 at 7:58 PM by Dan


 
 
<head> 
 
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us"> 
 
</head> 
 
 
 
<p>I am considering listing on Yahoo.  I would like to know how to find the  
 
smaller industry specific directories. My web site deals with  
 
construction  
 
equipment
and work  
 
clothes &amp; work wear
  </p>

posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 at 10:50 PM by Scott


My site (www.1stForCanada.com) already appears on Business.com so it appears not everyone has to pay. DMOZ is a waste of time I have tried several times since last year. Whilst I would love to subscribe to Yahoo I just cannot see the benefit.

posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 at 5:39 AM by Dale Wilson


Great Article. However, I have submitted my site to DMOZ, and it has yet to approve my page. Is there any reason why?

posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 at 10:31 AM by Amanda Michelle


I have been doing SEO for a while now (3 yrs) and have never successfully submitted a site to DMOZ and had it appear. I totally think it's a waste of time.  
Though my clientwww.dunnwellconstruction.com/index.html has read all this stuff on the web about it and how great it is and wants me to submit his site. So, here goes nothing!

posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 at 7:11 PM by Barbie


Yes eventhough we have technology advancement, humans are still better when it comes to work.

posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 at 8:02 PM by Jie


While I've been reading a lot about DMOZ has anyone had any experience with Zoominfo. I've tried to add my business and my site <a>www.realtyworldeastcarolina.com<a> several weeks ago and still no response. This is a relatively new site that does fairly well on google but struggles on yahoo. I've had the same results from DMOZ so i am sceptical about putting time into something that gets ignored.

posted on Monday, August 25, 2008 at 5:17 PM by Mike


Thanks for the info. I tried to list my company on Zoom and it said this wasn't available yet. Did I misunderstand how to do that? When I searched for the company name, it wasn't even found. Very interesting.

posted on Sunday, August 31, 2008 at 12:41 PM by Gail Doby


From what I have heard about Zoom if your not HUGE your not getting in

posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 at 12:39 AM by Phoenix


It is hard to get into Zoom this is true, but lots of small companies have done it.

posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 at 12:41 AM by Florida Pooper Scooper dude


It is hard to get into Zoom this is true, but lots of small companies have done it.

posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 at 12:43 AM by Florida Pooper Scooper dude


It is hard to get into Zoom this is true, but lots of small companies have done it.

posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 at 12:46 AM by Florida Pooper Scooper dude


I try also to add my small arcade site to dmoz , and like others I didnt heard nothing from them , anyway for me isnt a big deal :) becouse I`m just get a new desing and I`m have allmoust done complectly re-write the code of the site with all scripts and so on ... i`ll try to add to all other directoryes becouse it seems i`ll never get listed with my site on this one :)

posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 at 2:10 AM by Cristian


I posted so many links to Dmoz and Zoominfo but they are not approved why?

posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 at 8:16 AM by sathish


my company grade is decreasing since two days why? previously it 74 but at a time it decreased to 68 please give replay

posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 at 8:20 AM by sathish


my company grade is decreasing since two days why? previously it 74 but at a time it decreased to 68 please give replay

posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 at 8:21 AM by sathish


There would have to be even more sites than mentioned in the article in order to get listed. Can anyone reccomend other sites?

posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 at 9:54 PM by Imagine Wellness


I ran my domain through HubSpot website grader, and it said that my site was not listed in ZoomInfo. So I checked ZoomInfo and found that it had been automatically listed. 
 

posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 4:29 PM by Nathalie Allard


I have made five different attempts to get put up on dmoz.org, no 'salesy' copy, etc., all to no luck. Anything I'm missing?

posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 at 6:36 PM by Ken Krogue


I specialise in accessible web design, and I like to think that my company is among the very few that really understand web accessibility. I'm a member of the Guild of Accessible Web Designers and I also assess new candidates. I have tried to be listed in DMOZ for the last 2 years and made 2 attempts, but still no luck! I think DMOZ should be DMOted and not be considered by Google as a reference.

posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 at 12:56 PM by Nathalie Allard


http://www.pmedia.ir

posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 at 12:42 AM by pmedia


I paid $299 for listing in yahoo dir but I do not see any improvement and I do not think it is investment that you can do with great return. Regarding DMOZ I did submit 5 times for 3 year period and still nothing. DMOZ is hopeless. Here is my web site http://www.ezwebbuy.com 
And one more thing. AdWords and yahoo search marketing schemas are good as long you have the money to pay constantly you may have nice return but not always all the time every month. Basically these two are huge money machines - they want your money no doubt about it. Does is worth? I would say sometimes but most likely you loose just try not to loose too much and some day you may start making money online. This was the facts. Good luck to all.

posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 11:19 AM by ilian


ZoomInfo is a new one for me but going to get myself added now. Is it just me or did the Yahoo directory used to be free?. I'm sure I submitted us once way back for nothing but can no longer find us?

posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 at 1:46 PM by Ross


I saw salesplanet.ws on zoominfo.com

posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 at 8:35 PM by karly


karly, Are you just trying to get free advertising for your site?

posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 at 8:54 PM by Luke Rehmann


I think I read somewhere recently that Google has 'DMOted' DMOZ because it has become an irrelevance. Is this true? I, too, have submitted my sitewww.gasboiler-buyability.co.uk in early 2008 and I've had no luck whatsoever!!! 
 
Alan Potts 
 
Buyability

posted on Saturday, October 18, 2008 at 11:05 AM by Alan Potts


its been a month already and DMOZ haven't added my site: Maxtein.com 
 
How could that be? 

posted on Monday, October 20, 2008 at 6:33 AM by ronnell


ooppss! sorry about that..  
 
Maxtein.com

posted on Monday, October 20, 2008 at 6:35 AM by ronnell


ooppss! sorry about that..  
 
Maxtein.com

posted on Monday, October 20, 2008 at 6:37 AM by ronnellz


Will try the methods above

posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 at 6:22 AM by Tony Chan


thank you

posted on Saturday, October 25, 2008 at 4:24 AM by oyunlar


I HAVE SUBMITTED SEVERAL TO DMOZ BUT STILL THEY HAVE NOT ENLISTED ME!

posted on Sunday, October 26, 2008 at 3:25 AM by Santanu Hazra


My website stats say that i have been searched and clicked on from dmoz, but i can not find my listing. Is there anyway to search for a domain in dmoz?

posted on Sunday, October 26, 2008 at 11:14 AM by Luke Rehmann


I am having the same problems with DMOZ submitting my sitewww.fleurdepup.com Additionally, I am having a hard time getting my company on ZoomInfo. I sent them the suggestion, but nothing so far. Any tips?

posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 at 9:58 AM by Greg Wright


I too have tried to submit to DMOZ and have had no luck. I'll be patient though. My internet mentor said the Yahoo Dir is more than worth the $299 he paid. I'll take his advice and add my sitwww.LeTourneauPainting.com to it! 
 

posted on Thursday, October 30, 2008 at 6:30 PM by Chad


Great article. 
I have been submitting our website, www.atomltd.co.uk to a few directories, but this article has helped a lot

posted on Friday, October 31, 2008 at 6:16 AM by Mark


http://www.5071.blogfa.com/

posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 at 3:15 AM by Sassan


I just found your site, and it determined my site earned a 22. I am going to work on it and come back and retest. 
 
Betina

posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 at 12:08 AM by Betina Foreman, Austin_Realtor


I had no luck with DMOZ either. I tried twice this year, but nothing:-(

posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 at 8:54 AM by Brighde Reed


I love how grader turns SEO into gaming. :)

posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 at 1:39 AM by Leslie


Very good article for seo! . I submitted one of our site www.beadalgo.com 5 weeks before. Don't know how long they will take. Last year also I have submitted 2,3 website's haven't got any response from DMOZ. Let's see what happens this time.

posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 at 6:53 PM by beadalgo


We have had our site www.sewholy.com for over a year and have not ranked even with google though the bots come. Will buying a yahoo directory listing help or using another ?

posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 at 12:17 PM by mark


DMOZ is can have quirky editors and they can get really hung up about your site having 'unique' content for your chosen category. I was trying to get into 'Leeds' > 'website design'. 
 
I submitted 3 times over a year or two, to no avail. 
 
Finally I gave up and went for a tight geographical location and was listed within 3 weeks. 
 
Although I doubt whether I will get human traffic from DMOZ, it's a link that Google takes note of.

posted on Thursday, November 13, 2008 at 10:14 AM by Fred Campbell


I submitted my sitewww.wrappedtogo.net to DMOZ in March 2007. I am still waiting to be listed...

posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 at 6:21 PM by Linda


Same as the rest of the people - haven't been able to get listed on dmoz (two or three years) or zoominfo (just submitted now, but since you posted the link a year ago, and they are still saying 'coming soon', probably not too likely).

posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 at 1:11 PM by Jon Daley


Yahoo charges too much for its listing. Not affordable for non-commercial websites.

posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 at 2:52 AM by John Roberts


The DMOZ is almost impossible to get into. I have a better chance of becoming a celebrity and that will never happen! <a>www.homesecuritysandiego.com</>

posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 at 5:18 PM by Home Security San Diego


I got listedwww.4youand4me.com andwww.terranovafirm.com in DMOZ in less that 3 months! It's great and its working!!

posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 at 5:33 PM by Andre Reo


I added <a>www.designsbydoe.com months ago and still nothing. DMOZ has become the secret society of Freemasons, answering only to the Google (the all seeing eye).

posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 at 8:23 PM by Designs by Doe


as my fiend said The DMOZ is almost impossible to get into. if you can get better way to do that...then w will do

posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 at 5:01 PM by BSBC


I feel so special after reading this. When I got into real estate I put up just a single page with nothing special html. I submitted it to dmoz.org and I got listed. I honestly could tell you how long it took to be listed and I don't think I ever got an email telling me that I got listed. I just checked one day and I was on it. 
 
 
 

posted on Thursday, December 18, 2008 at 12:09 AM by Alan


Excellent advice Hubspot for anyone serious about their website venture. Personally, I would also include the BOTW.org directory as another primary destination. 
 
 
 
I'm aware that many people have had mixed experiences with Dmoz.org - myself, I recently submitted our dental promo site in the evening and it was listed at Dmoz the next morning. 
 
 
 
Go figure. 
 
 
 
John Barremore 
 
Houston, TX  
 

posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 at 11:09 PM by The Visible Dentist


Found the information and comments on the site very helpful, 
In my limited experience, this SEO thing usually takes a lot of time and you need to go into it with not many expectations. Also, just when you think you've got it right someone will move the goalpost!!!! 
Great work here on Hubspot, thank you. 
 
Mark 
C &amp; M Services>

posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 at 1:01 PM by Mark Yates


http://urin79.com

posted on Friday, December 26, 2008 at 1:20 AM by nopul


I check out the top listed sites and ran them with the Grader and they have only an average of 33, with my site being 84 I wonder if all this info actually helps.

posted on Monday, December 29, 2008 at 2:14 PM by Seattle Inspector


My first grade with websitegrader was a pathetic 5 out of 100. I was depressed for days as Ihad put in hours and hours of daily slog into it. After reading the info on this blog about SEO the bells finally started ringing. After resubmitting my site got a score of 17 out of 100 , big improvement a long way to go still, but have my pages indexed by google. Perseverance does bring rewards. know I am ranking 60  
 
 
 
see 
 
 
 
<a>www.bsbcenter.com<a> 
 
Thanks for your valuable information.

posted on Thursday, January 01, 2009 at 10:43 AM by BSB Center


mike, is the yahoo directory good for small businesses for the traffic or link juice?

posted on Saturday, January 03, 2009 at 10:24 PM by marcel


Thanks HubSpot for the article. And, thanks to John Barremore for the BOTW suggestion - just $99/year.

posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 at 2:02 PM by Judy


Amazing blog! Tks. 
 
I think I will be lucky! 
 
rebellabel.com 
 
Extreme Sports T-Shirts online store. 
 

posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 at 2:55 PM by Melanie


Sorry, this is the good link : rebellabel.com

posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 at 3:00 PM by Melanie


Download the most powerful "COMPLETE MONEY KIT" ,ITS A BIG DEAL.

posted on Saturday, January 10, 2009 at 2:33 PM by Santanu


I found out why its hard to list with dmoz its because they dont have enough editors. I ran into one of the editors on a blog and he pushed it through for us. Maybe becoming an editor is the way. I dont understand how people have thousands of dmoz listings whats up with that and how do people get thousands of majestic seo links and does that actually help anything. Majestic seo non functioning search engine that they are trying to make better than google how does that help your site.

posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 at 12:22 PM by guyp422


I like this site.

posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 at 9:30 AM by kurye


DMOZ really does suck. I have submitted several of our domain names, and have never been indexed. 
 
 
 
 
 
http://www.onsitein60.com 
 
http://www.flatratenetworkcabling.com

posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 at 8:40 AM by akiva


Luckily DMOZ is free because it is a pain in the butt to get listed. I have been submitting my site bnrbranding.com every 4-5 months. I have been hesitant to pay for the Yahoo listing. but I might finally break down and do it just for the SEO boost.

posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 at 7:59 PM by Brent Friar


Thanks for your valuable information

posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 at 1:18 PM by hoshang ghorbanian


For what it’s worth, submit your site to DMOZ, but don’t expect to ever see it show up. I’ve waited over a year since I last submitted (twice in all) and am beginning to think that with the “Human Editors” a little “Grease in the palm” might go a long way to getting listed. Seems like the highly competitive categories are harder to get into. 
 
As for Yahoo, it apparently was working for us while listed. Suddenly we were dropped from the directory a week or so ago and our Hubspot Website Grade dropped over 20 points and traffic slowed way down. 
 
Take Yahoo Directory with a grain of salt. You pay hard earned dollars to get listed which is easy, but if they drop you:  
 
1) They won’t tell you why 
 
2) The never will notify you that you have been dropped  
 
3) They DO NOT respond to emails about the directory 
 
4) They self-admit that they provide NO Support for the Directory 
 
5) In order to get back on you need to Buck UP again 
 
Very nice scam they’ve got going. Almost as bad a DMOZ the self-proclaimed God of the directory listing world. Do yourself a favor. 
 
Do inbound marketing like Hubspot recommends and reap the rewards eventually on your own. If SEO, Gobs of traffic, a bulging bank account and repeat customers were easy, everyone would be doing it. 
 
Just my .02 
 

posted on Friday, January 30, 2009 at 8:55 PM by Rich M


I tried to submit my Tipperary Hotels site to DMOZ but nothing now for 18 months. 
 
I think a new DMOZ is needed. 
 
Mark

posted on Sunday, February 01, 2009 at 11:50 AM by Mark O'Leary


My real estate blogwww.PostcardsFromTheLake.com was listed in the yahoo directory this week after paying my fee, but it didn't change my website grader score - not even one percent. I'm really disappointed! Matter of fact, my score hasn't moved one bit since I've done significant optimization. I know it's not counting inbound links lately for some reason, but maybe it's not working at all?

posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 at 3:59 PM by Melody Anderson


DMOZ is just tuff!!!! 
 
 
 
I have tried for months and still nothing?

posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 at 4:08 PM by Aaron Carter


dmoz totally sucks! i have tried numerous times with several different sites, and have never been listed. 
 

posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 at 5:39 PM by MAC Man


Melody. 
I know what you mean. My web sitewww.alotahomeinspect.ca went from 70 to 54 but today it got up to 55 so something most be working. Hopefully it'll get fixed soon.

posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 at 2:03 PM by Gerry Pallotta


ya its realy sucks! i have tried different times dmoz,im notgeting any results wat can i do?

posted on Saturday, February 14, 2009 at 3:58 AM by saxochina


I am new to this and unfortunately the (listing)cost for us at this time is prohibitive.  
if anyone has any alternative solutions.....

posted on Saturday, February 21, 2009 at 9:22 PM by Julie


Anyone have an idea of when the Inbound Links factor will once again work?

posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 at 12:16 AM by MIBearings LLC


I think the only way to now get listed in DMOZ is to have a very different type of content or service on your web site. Otherwise the request to be included seems to often be ignored- 
 

posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 at 10:01 AM by Cable Guy


I am listed with both DMOZ and Yahoo! directories, but my hubspot website grader report says i'm not listed on Yahoo!. Is there anyone i can contact to get this rectified. My goal is to have a 75 website grade, I am currently on a 73.  
 
Please contact me!!! Management are very close to giving me a bonus for my hard work!!! 
 
Thanks very much!

posted on Monday, March 02, 2009 at 12:29 AM by Matt John


To Matt John, 
Give it some time. Not all of website grader's information is up-to-date. It is especially out of date if. 
1. You were just recently listed in the yahoo directory 
2. If right before you became listed, you calculated your website grade. 
I believe that Website Grader stores some of it's information in a cache file. 
One thing it does while calculating your grade is "getting recent cache date" 
I believe that if this date is very close to the current date, it uses the cache information.

posted on Monday, March 02, 2009 at 8:35 PM by Wheel Bearing Guy


Hello! 
 
 
 
I'd like to find out more about how I can add the company I work for, Quakerbridge Radiology Associates, to your website's directory. Please e-mail/call me A.S.A.P. Thank you very much. 
 
 
 
609-890-0033 ext. 6233 
 
j_callahan@qbradiology.com 
 
 
 
Kind Regards,  
 
Julia Callahan - QRA Marketing Intern/Assistant

posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 at 2:15 PM by Julia Callahan


This is NOT a contact form! 
Try creating an account to get a contact email

posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 at 4:46 PM by Luke Rehmann


I submitted my website, <a href=http://www.fortworthtechs.com">www.fortworthtechs.com to DMOZ about 4-6 months ago and still haven't heard anything. I am just going to wait on that and work on other SEO stuff, like backlinks.

posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 at 11:56 PM by John Davison


First off i think your article is not great. i like hubspot but i wanted the big question is how can we really know in a measured sense if the fee to yahoo or business.com effects the way googles algo sees your site. Seem there are a lot of misguided peeps here. the engine we need is google. googles main struggle is verifying how worthy your site is. regardless of everyone's twittering DMOZ offers a human at no fee to verify. it has its flaws but is essential in my opinion. i appreciate lots here dont get listed which i sympathise. Its not about the site itslef its basically google directory isnt it. and how can you lot not see thats how this game works?

posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 at 9:48 AM by Chris


DMOZ takes time to get into the directory :(

posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 at 4:29 PM by p@r@noid


i have submitted my car accessories site 2 mouths before, dmoz didnt list it yet,,,if there is any problem i submit again to the DMOZ?????????????

posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 at 5:30 PM by Car Accessories


Thanks for this well written article full of great information. I'll be listing my site,  
Vancouver Limousine

posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 at 7:54 PM by Vancouver Limousine


Thanks for the tips, just applied to list New Capital Club.

posted on Monday, March 30, 2009 at 7:21 PM by New Capital Club


Yet another useful Hubspot article - thanks guys. Our business software comparison site saw a good jump in google results once we listed in the Yahoo directory. Thinking about it from Google's perspective, your willingness to spend a few hundred bucks on a yahoo listing is a useful proxy for whether you are serious about your site or not.

posted on Monday, April 06, 2009 at 5:36 PM by Xavier Russo


HubSpot is one of the best resources for SEO available. Yeah, some of their advice can be challenging (getting listed on recommended directories). But, if you follow through, your web position will advance. <a>www.dajuanjones.com is now on page 1 for my desired search terms and analytics proves the increase in traffic. Thanks guys.

posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 at 10:31 PM by Dajuan


I have submitted my site 2 times in Dmoz, didn't list it yet as well as i have submitted in yahoo and other High PR directories, all are accepted my website......:)

posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 at 12:08 AM by Traffic Trigger


Sounds like we are all in agreement that DMOZ is a waste of time right now. I added my site Direct Home Furnishings to DMOZ, signed up as a volunteer, etc. and no replies or listings. Thank you to HubSpot and all of it's users for great information.

posted on Saturday, April 18, 2009 at 8:04 AM by SteveK


DMOZ has allowed me to update my organizations listing <a>blackwateroutdoor.com<a> with only 24 hours turnaround. We are also on ZoomInfo without requesting a listing!

posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 at 7:37 PM by Eric


It’s been about a year now since I applied to DMOZ (twice) and still no luck. I wrote it off long ago and refuse to lose sleep over it. Also, what makes Yahoo Directory any different than any other “PAID” directory link that Google frowns on? The hefty price tag?

posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 at 9:32 PM by Rich


I have submitted couple of my sites to DMOZ and still nothing. I guess I have to sit and wait patiently. 
 
 
 
Thanks.

posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 at 12:42 PM by Lenny


As a business owner, this advice is valuable. Of course, as a tech geek, I also know how some of this works, but it bears repeating: directory submissions (even paid) are different than paid advertisement links, in that they are actually reviewed, and are usually considered relevant to the category that they get added to. Paid advertisements are frowned on b/c they can be FOR anything, and TO any quality of website, and advertised links just do not pass page rank. 
-Kevin 
http://www.builddesignawebsite.com 
PR3, Websitegrader.com score: 72 and growing. Not in any directories yet either and only 2-3 months old on this site. Lookin' good so far!

posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 at 9:33 PM by Kevin


We just added our website <a href="http://www.trilogypools.com/>Trilogy Pools to the Yahoo directory this evening.  
 
We are not listed on DMOZ, so I sent in the form. It took just a few minutes. . .if we get listed, great. If not, no worries! 
 
ZoomInfo has our information, but it has an alias domain attached <a href=">Fiberglasspools.com to it. Not a problem with the redirect. 
 
We are loving HubSpot! 
 
Much Success! 
Michelle

posted on Saturday, May 02, 2009 at 9:21 PM by Michelle Forchetti


Great advice and thanks alot. 
 
Registered my stock trading site <A HREF='www.microstock.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk'>Microstock with DMOZ. Fingers crossed all goes well. 
 

posted on Wednesday, May 06, 2009 at 1:32 PM by Microstock


Great concept - full of idealism - likely needs to be changed drastically to succeed.  
 
http://www.tel038.com.tw

posted on Friday, May 08, 2009 at 6:17 AM by 花蓮民宿


Thanks for the comment 花蓮民宿. You are right, of course, it does need to change alot. Starting to realise plenty of work is required. 
 
 
 
Just for the record, regarding the title of this article, my computer is a better trader than me.

posted on Friday, May 08, 2009 at 11:25 AM by Microstock


The trick to getting into DMOZ is to submit your site to a category that has editors. This is usually the most difficult part - finding an appropriate category that has an editor.

posted on Friday, May 08, 2009 at 4:46 PM by Nancy


Great tip Nancy but how do you which categories have editors?

posted on Friday, May 08, 2009 at 5:12 PM by Nathalie


DMOZ 
4,604,734 sites - 83,112 editors - over 590,000 categories 
That's  
7 categories to every one editor 
~55.4 Sites edited by each editor. 
DMOZ needs less categories or more editors. I may become one...

posted on Friday, May 08, 2009 at 9:50 PM by Wheel Bearings


DMOZ: Been listed there for a few years now - <a>http://www.ampmgraphics.com seems to be helping (does take time though) :)

posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 at 4:23 AM by pauline


IT seems to me that spending money on other avenues in start-up phase would be best for a business like mine, http://www.bonpastry.com. At what point should I delve into the yahoo directory

posted on Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 3:57 PM by Sergio


DMOZ is corrupted, even not all editors are unethical but some of them are. My friend is an editor of DMOZ for a long time. His duty are 
 
1. Get his site listed in DMOZ without a time 
2. Get his friend site that related to the category to being listed without a time and regardless to quality of the sites. 
3. If someone want to list in the category he moderating? Pay him a few hundred bucks and things will all set. 
 
This real example is show truly color of DMOZ these days. Some of corrupt editors are living used DMOZ to generate his revenue. Some categories are not accept new editor, except you send a personal to your friend whom is DMOZ editor alrady and you will be editor with no time. 
 
Shameful for some editors that deny on this story and lies to peoples that DMOZ editor will never do any corruption.

posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 12:35 AM by MBRW


The best way to get the search engines to LOVE you is to focus on End-Users. Do the right thing by producing quality content. Stuff that will read yourself. That's what we focus on here <a>shopaservice.com<a/>

posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 at 11:43 PM by Zeeshan Idrees


People complaining over US$299? Sorry, if you are in business, but don't want to do this step, maybe go get a 9 to 5 job?

posted on Thursday, June 04, 2009 at 3:33 AM by Karl Rohde


Why wasn't my post added? it was equal to all these? I pay my $500 per month+

posted on Thursday, June 04, 2009 at 10:13 AM by Michael Hemphill


Why do all the low end sites that look like a 8 year old made them get page one rankings?! and they do not use all the SEO help.

posted on Friday, June 05, 2009 at 10:05 AM by SeattleInspector


US$299 is a good investment.We are living in a commercial world.I am going to do it for mywww.oledgadgets.com.

posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 at 11:23 AM by Oledgadgets


Im thinking of listing with yahoo. I think its worth it because I think search programs look at each other. I checked my websitewww.gtahomeinspector.com and it got a webgrader mark of 26, I guess I have alot of work ahead of me.

posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 at 5:08 PM by Mark


Thanks for the info. 
 
Best, 
Chris 
http://www.gigmaven.com

posted on Thursday, July 02, 2009 at 12:00 PM by Chris


I heard DMOZ editors can list any website in the directory for extra cash without even reviewing it. Is it true?? Can't believe it!!

posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 at 11:57 AM by Web Design Toronto


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