Recently I had a chance to interview Jill Konrath, author of SNAP Selling and Selling to Big Companies. She’s an internationally recognized speaker who helps companies increase new client acquisition and speed up their sales.
But she also has expertise in another area that doesn't get enough attention ... how women can be successful in sales roles.
Jill and I sat down together to go through some questions that were curated from the women in our own sales organization here at HubSpot; but I think you'll find some of the experiences and challenges familiar to you regardless of what role you play in your organization. Take a look at our conversation, and find some more resources at the end of this post that helps address the issues we discuss.
When we first talked, you mentioned that you never wanted to be in sales. Yet today you’re one of the world’s leading experts. How did that happen?
The only reason I got into sales was because I had an idea to start a company. When I went to SCORE for advice, they told me it was a great idea but said that it wouldn’t work unless I could sell. So I threw myself in and learned what it took to be successful.
In your opinion, what’s the #1 thing that makes a woman successful in sales?
The decision to be successful. You can’t “try” sales. It’s a challenging job that requires you to learn so many things. It takes you totally out of your comfort zone and you’ll screw up so many times before getting it right. Unfortunately, too many women do it for a short while and say, “I guess I’m just not cut out for sales.” It’s the wrong conclusion. They just haven’t figured it out yet.
Do women have any special strengths and skills that they bring to selling?
Absolutely! They’re more focused on helping customers achieve their objectives. They ask more questions and learn more. They typically invest more time prepping for sales calls and meetings with clients. All this contributes to their success.
And, they do a great job in getting business. It’s actually an ideal profession for a goal-oriented woman who wants to work hard, challenge herself and grow every day. Plus, you can earn an income that’s commensurate with the amount of effort you put in.
What are some of the challenges women face in a sales role? What are the best ways to address them?
Women typically downplay their expertise. Linguistic research shows that it’s because women focus more on “connecting” rather than strutting their stuff. This makes them appear less confident and knowledgeable to both their customers and their colleagues.
For example, in a meeting they may pose an idea by saying, “maybe we can do this” or “it might help if …” But, because of the tentative way their suggestion was proposed, it gets passed right over.
Instead, they need to boldly propose their ideas -- especially around guys -- and be prepared to state why they feel this way. Personally, it took me awhile to get the hang of this because it’s not my natural style.
This is more important today with customers than ever before. One of the primary strategies necessary for success is to disrupt a prospect’s perception of their status quo. This involves making strong statements and backing them with solid evidence. The only way I know to address this is to practice ahead of time.
Anything else that women do that impacts their career success?
Yes. Women also operate under the mistaken belief that their results speak for themselves. While success helps, it’s not enough. If you want to move up in your company, what matters even more is your colleagues' perception of you.
Management is looking for team players, strategic thinkers, creative problem solvers and leaders. Women in sales need to focus on getting involved in projects that demonstrate their strengths in these areas if they want to move ahead.
Sales has shifted more and more to an in-house model. Has that enabled more women to take on sales roles?
Yes, and I think inside sales is a great place for anyone to get involved in sales. It’s a wonderful career opportunity. Also, tons of women are starting their own businesses. Every single one of them is in sales, too. And best of all, when women see other women in sales they realize that it’s something they can do, too.
What kind of career growth options do you think women starting out in sales should know about?
Sales is an enabling skill; it's a foundation for your success in whatever your next position happens to be. Savvy business professionals will learn how to sell, because it's what makes companies grow.
Anyone who works in Sales should feel proud of their job. By doing their job, they’re helping customers achieve their goals as well as their own company. Plus, they’re learning what it takes to gain support and buy-in for any future ideas they want to implement or initiatives they want to launch.
Unfortunately, there's so much negative baggage that comes with the term “sales,” because people imagine the old product-pushing peddler. This perception is wrong, but it still exists.
Do women need mentors to get ahead? And if so, what do you suggest?
While it’s nice to have a mentor, it’s not always feasible nor is it necessary. However, every woman should identify at least one woman who’s a couple months/years ahead of them in their career -- and doing well. This person should be used as a benchmark and personal motivator. No conversation is even necessary, just the thought: “If Lisa can do it, I can do it.”
Also, I highly recommend forming your own consortium of women in business and have monthly meetings to talk about “stuff.” I personally got together with four other ladies for over five years. We practiced speaking. We gave each other feedback. And, we supported each other’s growth. It was invaluable.
Do you think gender diversity is important in sales & leadership? Should executives be making a push to fill a "gender quota"?
Great question -- and certainly controversial. Let me answer it from a personal perspective first. I was hired by Xerox because the federal government told them they had to hire women and minorities if they wanted to be awarded any contracts.
None of the men thought women could sell “technical” products like copiers. But, by the time I left, 8 of the top 10 reps in my region were women. We brought a whole new set of skills to the company and raised the bar for everyone.
So, while I don’t particularly love the idea of a “gender quota,” I also believe that people don’t know what they’re missing when they lack a diverse workforce. And, because there’s a naturally tendency to hire people like yourself, this exacerbates the problem even more.
But it’s not just me who’s saying things like that. For example, research proves that the more women there are on executive boards, the better the organization does.
Quite frankly, the best way to address women's issues is to talk about them as organizational issues -- which they truly are. Companies that don’t invest in finding and developing high potential women are really missing the boat.
Thank you for taking the time to talk to me about this topic of women in sales. HubSpotters are often passing around your content and advice -- do you have any resources on your website I can point our readers to?
Absolutely. Anyone in sales -- men and women alike -- need to stay in constant learning mode. I write a blog, Fresh Sales Strategies, that anyone in a sales role can benefit from. I've also carved out a home on my website full of sales resources to help people in our industry be successful.
What other questions do you have for Jill about how women can be successful in Sales roles? What challenges have you faced yourself in your sales or marketing career?


Jill Fratianne 9:07 AM on August 27, 2012
Love Jill Konrath, really great article. Thank you for posting.
Tom Blue 11:06 AM on August 27, 2012
Hubspot: I think more of these outbound types of posts would be extremely beneficial... just a thought. Big fan of Jill too... probably the biggest authority on sales right now.
Niveen Salem 11:08 AM on August 27, 2012
Hello Corey,
I enjoyed reading this topic. Thank you for sharing. I believe women are underestimated for their sales power, if they want to! So, yes the decision to be successful is crucial for women to succeed in their businesses.
One of the major drawbacks, I personally see and live, for women success is time management and distraction in life. With marriage, kids...all life events, sometimes it gets hard to focus and finish the task.
Setting a certain amount of working hours daily is imperative to achieving goals so success can be achieved "slowly by surely". Success is nothing but a routine, so practicing is the way to go.
Thanks again,
Niveen
Barbara Giamanco 11:48 AM on August 27, 2012
Sales has always been my passion, which is why I made it my professional career. I love the freedom, the challenge, the diversity of what happens on a day to day basis. As Jill pointed out though, it is hard work and unless you are committed to it, you'll struggle.
Jill also rightly pointed out that we need to adapt out style when working with the guys. Women do tend to think that their good works will speak for themselves. Not always. We need to be sure that others know of our good work. I'm not exactly sure why women fear "bragging", but it is important that women speak up.
Finally, I'm not a fan of gender quota's, but as Jill pointed out they can ensure that people who might be overlooked otherwise are now given a chance. Great sales leaders - well, all leaders really - understand that the diversity of strengths on their team is what leads to continued success.
Thanks for a great piece!
Karin Bellantoni 12:22 PM on August 27, 2012
One of the things I know Jill practices is sharing. It is not that men don't but women are more naturally inclined to openly share with others.
Joining groups where sharing is part of the meeting is critical to intermediate salespeople that want to advance as well. You have your learnings and others have theirs. When you mix it up as we did in the Sales Shebang (that Jill has led for 5 years) we all get something new and grow in the process. The way we share on the internet is new but women have been open and sharing since the beginning of time.
Karin Bellantoni
Christine 1:06 PM on August 27, 2012
Great article - Jill is so inspirational. Definitely advice to be used in any discipline, even if your career isn't sales, we are always selling ourselves! Thank you for posting.
Lori Richardson 1:42 PM on August 27, 2012
My career in technology sales began when, at 24, I was a single mom and wanted a way to make as much money (or more) as my male counterparts. Sales is one of the few careers where women can earn (or outearn) men for doing the same job. I loved it, and it shaped my life.
Years later, I look back on many situations where I was the one woman or one of a few amidst a big group of guys. Working hard to make the top 5 on the leaderboard everywhere I sold, I took great pride in getting a similar paycheck.
The great thing about selling for women is that, assuming you start out negotiating your salary well, and assuming you have the same bonus structure, the career is what you make it.
I also loved having flexible hours. As long as I did my numbers, no one bothered me. With the increased opportunities in inside sales positions now, women can gain great positions with little or no travel, working M-F.
Jill Konrath continues to be a wonderful mentor to many in the world of selling - and especially for women. Thank you for this important post.
Colleen Stanley 2:47 PM on August 27, 2012
The point that Jill made regarding you can't "try" sales resonates with me and the work I do with clients.
Salespeople often default to sales as profession rather than a proactive choice. And it's easy to spot this type of salesperson. He/she doesn't enroll in lifelong learning and soon they are a dinosaur in their industry.
Make a decision to be in sales and be the best in sales.
Colleen Stanley
Chief Selling Officer
SalesLeadership
Carolyn Coradeschi 3:18 PM on August 27, 2012
So spot on with this interview, Jill! I remember your most recent words this past week at our Sales Shebang ... "Power is Impact" "Claim your own power and do it purposefully."
In my past 27 years as a sales professional,I have made a conscious decision to surrounded myself with top female producers. We're out there and it's so important that we seek each other out, band together, and mentor those coming into this amazing and lucrative (in so many more ways than $) profession.
I've always been proud to say I'm in sales, whether it was selling books door-to-door in college, medical sales or running my 2 sales coaching businesses.
As Jill says, "you can earn an income that’s commensurate with the amount of effort you put in."
Thanks for this opportunity to share!
Carolyn
nicole 11:50 PM on August 27, 2012
I love sales and watching my customers business grow because I helped them. I have been in sales all my life and I am in advertising sales. The only draw back for me is the lack of time I have to spend with my family. I find I can't seem to find the happy medium some sometimes.
rinkoo jaiswal 7:38 AM on August 28, 2012
Great piece of work..
Barbara Weaver Smith 9:43 AM on August 28, 2012
Thanks for sharing great advice from Jill.
Jill is an awesome role model for sellers of all kinds, but especially she embodies how important it is for sellers to know one another, share ideas, and grow in our profession.
Joanne Black 5:23 PM on August 28, 2012
There are definitely different ways that women relate--in life and in sales.
Our conversations must focus on the results or business impact that prospects and clients receive when they contract with us. That's what clients care about--whether men or women.
It's the bottom line that counts. I wasn't raised or trained to think that way, but now ROl conversations are the only ones I have.
That doesn't negate building relationships and getting to know people. That's a "must." People do business with people they like. Period. And women are great at connecting and building long-lasting relationships.
SEO In Delhi 7:33 AM on August 30, 2012
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