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Paul Gillin Explains Why Marketers Should 'Think Like Publishers

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If you've never heard Paul Gillin speak, skip the next few paragraphs, and go straight to the video below. You'll learn a lot.

Paul is a former technology journalist who has become a leading thinker and speaker about Social Media. His first book, New Media Influencers, is the catalyst that moved many businesses to begin using social media. His new book, Secrets of Social Marketing, promises to help even more businesses.

Paul stopped by our office in Cambridge before Thanksgiving, and I had a chance to sit down with him. We spoke about social media, blogging, inbound marketing and the ways marketers can thrive in this new world.

I posted a full video recording of our conversation below, but here are few highlights:

On Measuring the ROI of Social Media

"You have to look at the "I" side of the equation. The investment to get into these channels is very, very small."

How to Justify Social Media Investment to Management

"The cost of a pilot, the cost of testing is a rounding error on what you're spending on television media. So why shouldn't you take one tv ad. One tv ad will fund a very well-stocked company blog for two years."

How New Marketing Is Different From Traditional Marketing

"Many of the skills I learned in publishing are now the skills marketers need. Marketing is oriented towards delivering a message. You agree upon a message, then you deliver it repeatedly in multiple media and eventually you hope it sticks ... the difference with content marketing or conversation marketing is that you're delivering the message, and then you're saying, 'What do you think about that?'"

 


Here are a few of the sites Paul mentions in the video:

Steve Hall's site, AdRants

Proctor & Gamble's community for moms, Vocalpoint 

Dell's IdeaStorm 

Matt Harding, Where the Hell Is Matt?

Fiskars,

Fisk-A-Teers from Fiskars 

 


Posted by Rick Burnes on Mon, Dec 01, 2008 @ 08:15 AM

COMMENTS

Have to love Paul Gillin. I've only seen him speak once (NMS08), but he is a dynamic presence who truly cares about what he is doing...and is super motivated to encourage others to do the same. Oh...and he actually MODERATES a panel when asked to. Love the guy.

posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 at 8:21 AM by Stuart Foster


Great interview - some excellent insights re: marketing as publishing.  
 
Best quote: "a lot of the skills that editors learn are now moving into the lexicon of marketing". 
 
I think this is something we can increasingly see, particularly in the way that content is being packaged by business.

posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 at 10:19 AM by Mark Nagurski


Paul is right. I am currently in the same frame of mind whereby I publish useful but specific content to clients, subscribers and business colleagues on my blog.  
 
In order to appeal to the different learning styles, I now have the content available in various download formats such as; PDF transcripts of the interview, audio MP3 of the call, and a video presentation. 
 
Something that really got my attention during the interview with Paul was when he spoke of using humor through viral videos to publish content. 
 
I am yet to try this out.

posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 at 5:10 PM by Owen Mcgab Enaohwo


I agree the barrier for entry and cost on utilizing social media is low, but very few people do it particularly well.  
 
If you have a few well salaried employees spending a lot of time on social media you have to factor in the cost of their time as apart of your ROI calculations, and usually it doesn't back out. Unless you're factoring in branding and CRM.  
 
Hubspot does a nice job with their blog-- one of the better corporate blogs i've seen--- very good CRM.  
 
I think many companies use their blog as a "news", "press" or "announcements" (and most the announcements are only to awkwardly prop up their product, often using lots of exclamation points) section rather than connecting to their core users interests or businesses via a traditional "blog" format.  
 
Whenever I've hired people for my department I make sure they have an real interest in the web---  
 
"do you have a website?"  
 
Is one of my first questions.  
 
So maybe the problem with most corporate social media is those in charge of it.  
 
So, if a company wants to hire someone to manage their social media they should first ask them if they have a website or blog and what kind of social media they've had success with.

posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 at 1:36 PM by Andy Fox


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