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Sales Vs. Marketing: Whose Job is it to Generate Leads?

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This article is an interview of Anthony Cole by HubSpot's Peter Caputa. Tony is a sales development guru and the founder of Anthony Cole Training Group. Anthony Cole Training Group (a HubSpot customer) helps individuals and companies drive consistent and predictable sales growth. Tony's blog is called the Sales Java blog and you can find out about his live webinar series here.

In marketing, we call it "generating leads." In sales, it's usually called "prospecting." Whose job is it anyways? 

While salespeople have always been measured on their ability to generate leads, inside sales people are often measured only on their ability to turn a cold list into warmer leads for their outside reps. However, even outside sales people who do their own prospecting are measured on their ability to fill the top of their funnel based on what leads turn into sales at the bottom.

Great marketers generate demand for their sales teams. With online marketing, marketers are now being measured on their ability to do so. With measurement comes great responsibility.

As a marketer, are you up for the challenge? Is your sales team carrying their weight too? 

To find out what it takes for a salesperson to be good at prospecting and generating leads, I turned to a sales training guru that I've been following for a few years, Anthony Cole:

Pete: How do you teach sales people to prospect? 

Tony: Actually the real key is to hire people who can prospect (prospect qualification is a testable skill) and then help them improve their techniques. Prospecting effectively is a topic we help sales people with every day and maybe for the marketers out there, this may help you understand how to better support your sales teams. We coach salespeople that their attitude about prospecting will determine how successful their sales career will be. If they feel that prospecting is something they have to do, then they will view it as drudgery. They will resist it; they will find other things to do instead of prospecting. They will not improve their skills at it and  their performance and success in sales will suffer. They must embrace prospecting. They must understand that prospecting is the job. They get paid a lot of money because they are willing to do what others won't - prospect.

Pete: Most people think that the best salespeople are the ones who are all about talking a lot and closing hard. In your experience, would you say that prospecting is the hardest thing for salespeople?

Tony: Those people in sales who are making the most money are not making the most because they are brighter or have better presentations, or because their product is better. They are making big money because they have figured out that the real job is getting in front of people or businesses that need, want and can pay for the product and services they provide.  The moment they realize that prospecting is THE job, they have taken their first step to the best year in sales they've ever had. 

Pete: Have you found that there are certain salespeople that are better at prospecting than others? Why?

Tony: Yes, there are people who are better prospectors and here’s why.  They have less of a need for approval and can ask tough questions.  Also, they recover from rejection quickly so not much gets them down.  They need to have the attitude of prospects that ‘some will, some won’t, so what, next…’  Many salespeople have self-limiting beliefs that in turn limit their behavior. The first step to unlocking the locked mindset is to identify those beliefs. Here are some examples:

  • "I don't like prospecting."
  • "It's hard to get past gatekeepers."
  • "If a prospect asks me to send something, I usually send something."
  • "I'm uncomfortable asking for referrals."

Pete: How do you recommend salespeople get over these self-limiting beliefs? 

Tony: Having the right attitude and beliefs about prospecting is the essential key that will unlock the skills they may have already, if they had just been able to overcome their own self-limiting beliefs. We tell them to take the limiting beliefs they've identified and turn them into positive affirmations. Below are a few examples:

  • "I don't like prospecting." --> "I love prospecting because it is the key to great prosperity."
  • "It's hard to get past gatekeepers." --> "Getting past a gatekeeper is what I do best when I prospect."
  • "People don't like to give referrals." --> "People are more than willing to introduce me to other people they know."

Pete: That's really interesting. Do you think marketers have self limiting beliefs about generating leads for their sales teams? 

Well, I'm not the expert on that. But, I've listened to enough salespeople complain about their marketing teams to know that it's probably a good idea for marketers to reflect on it. 

Maybe we should ask your readers to take a few minutes and identify some of the negative thoughts they might have about supporting their sales teams. Then, challenge them to turn them around to become positive powerful tools for their mutual success. I'd love to see more sales and marketing teams working more closely, and in unison, to grow their companies.

Feel free to share some self limiting beliefs that you (as marketers) have (or have seen) about generating leads for your sales team. Let's all work together to come up with some affirmations!

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Posted by Pete Caputa on Wed, Nov 04, 2009 @ 01:00 PM

COMMENTS

Good read.  
 
 
 
At the end of the day, sales and marketing needs to work together to effectively bring in prospects (or leads), help convert them into customers and then continue to build the relationship. I consider sales your front line, while marketing’s job is to make sure the foundation is strong enough to catch those that aren’t directly in contact with a sales rep. From an SEO/Internet marketing standpoint, your website (blog and other online sources) can be a great powerful sales tool that eventually brings in targeted traffic and tons of leads. On the other hand, you need bright sales people to close the big lucrative deals. It all depends on the company and the business model. I would say both are heavily important to the success of any business. 
 
 
 
ML

posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 1:23 PM by ML Web Consulting


When I was in sales (forever), marketing generated inbound calls. Fabulous. What the salespeople do with those leads from there was dicey. We were TRAINED really well.. 7 developing common ground, building rapport, discovering the real needs, assessing and advising and basically closing. However, some of our "award winning" salespeople did what we called "turn 'em and burn 'em". They would simply aswer the queue and ask "what's your credit card number" and turned into orde takers. If a cc# was not provided, they would hang up on that person and go to the next call. Are you gasping? I did. meh. This must make marketing people around the world cringe. And fellow ethical salespeople.  
 
 
 
Nice article... truly.

posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 1:42 PM by @AlexisCeule


Whose job is it? Everyone's! Being aware of the self-limiting statements we hear our minds saying is a really good place to start. If you can catch your mind saying those things and stop it, you're way ahead of the game.

posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 2:55 PM by Deborah Richmond


While a salesperson's full time job is to prospect and close deals the lines are definitely blurring. With more and more employees participating in social media activities a smart organization would equip all employees with the tools to be able to recognize and convert these interactions into prospects and sales.

posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 3:02 PM by Jen Norris - Garfield Group Interactive


WDYM by "prospecting"?  
 
You're not talking about cold calling, are you?

posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 5:45 PM by rebekah donaldson


Brilliant to deal with beliefs since everyone has them, and they are really the root cause of any results we experience in our own 'reality'. 
 
Beliefs generally fall into two categories - limiting and empowering. 
 
Of course, most aren't aware that they are beliefs, because they seem like 'facts' or truth to the experiencer. 
 
However, once a person realizes they can choose the beliefs they want operating, then real change, scratch that, transformation is very likely.

posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 at 12:14 AM by Paul


I wrote about the same topic back in July :)  
Social media – marketing or sales job?
 
 
My conclusion was that it's both marketing & sales job.

posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 at 1:49 AM by Toni Anicic


This debate has been there since the invention of these two fields..

posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 at 4:18 AM by Neytri


Nice article Sir, When we are blogging we should have to learn basic marketing strategy. We should know how to generate lead while we post article.

posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 at 7:39 AM by work at home opportunities


I think sales and marketing walk hand in hand. You need to know the best way to spend limited resources to create the most sales.'The YES movie''<a href=http://www.TheYESmovie.com>www.TheYESmovie.com.  
 
by Louis Lautman

posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 at 10:59 AM by Francis


Great article, some interesting items to take away. One thing that grabbed my attention was the statement about marketers generating leads; "With online marketing, marketers are now being measured on their ability to do so."  
We were measured on this even before online marketing existed; via other channels such as direct mail. Granted online tools now make it MUCH easier to quantify the success of a given marketing endeavor; but being accountable is nothing new (based upon my own experience). 

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