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Forget Twitter: It's For The Tragically Connected

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Lets get real about this, to paraphrase Loren Feldman, "Twitter: people write stuff, people read stuff. That's it". There is no big social networking secret at work here. It's simply a communication tool and not even a very good one. It breaks down more often than my first car, which I only paid $240 for.

The truth is, twitter is for geeks. Actually, it's not even for geeks, it's for uber-geeks. Not that there is anything wrong with that, I use twitter myself and have at times been called a geek. But to someone who uses the Internet for business (gasp!) and to make money, Twitter is often just a distraction.

It's something for the ADD crowd to cook up and inject into their veins. There is nothing wrong with using these systems. But what are you online for? Chat, make friends, make love? All good stuff, but are you online to make money? It's important to get your priorities right. Is your market the uber geek? If so, dive in, Twitter is where your market is at.

But, if you own a small consulting firm or are the VP marketing for a medium-sized manufacturing firm, I doubt twitter is where your customer base will be hanging out. You need to identify and connect with your customers and potential customers, and Twitter is not usually the most efficient (or effective) way to do that.

Some have said it's a great tool to use for list building. But when you absolutely need to build a list and be able to communicate with your market, a third party system is not it. Email is far more effective and people do not have to sign up to a third party system to use email.

Unless your customers already have a Twitter account, forget it. If your customer base already uses Twitter, you may have already read numerous blog posts praising the system and are using it to your advantage. If so, that's great.  That is not what this post is about.

This post is not an anti-Twitter post, it's not even a pro-Twitter post. It's a "Do that which makes sense for your business" post, a reminder that there are black holes out there which will suck all your precious time from you and not give you much (if any) return.

To get real benefit from Twitter you need to build a following.  Those who  already have over a thousand followers can send a digg request or a "hey, check out this post", and get a great response. But here's the thing, that following has been built up over months or years, with hours worth of expended effort. People simply follow/fan/friend the same people whatever system they are in. The person being followed simply says, "check out this new system", and they all go join and add the same people to their list.

Building a following from scratch simply using Twitter is possibly not the best use of your time. A following on Twitter should be viewed as a by-product of success elsewhere. This only makes sense if your business is with the natural inhabitants of this system. You need to be able to connect with your customer base by giving them the least amount of hoops to jump  through. Even RSS. How many normal people use an RSS reader? I live and die by RSS, but I am not  normal. I live life on the cutting edging of Web 2.0.

Twitter is fantastic if you have a market which already uses the system. But ask yourself, do you need to reach out to that market?

If you think using Twitter is free, you are insane. As a business person, you already realize that your time is money, so when you spend an hour on Twitter learning what people had for lunch, you are paying for that. When you think about it, you can apply that to everything. Even reading this post is going to cost you money, I just hope I can make it profitable for you.

Twitter is addictive. Real people are using it to communicate, and that can be fun. If you are online to have fun, fine and dandy. But, if it's profit you are after, you need to judge accordingly.

Still not convinced? Still want to walk the soft sands and hoped you wont get sucked in?  Then, by all means, Twitter away. 

The above article was written in collaboration with Lyndon Antcliff, a social media marketing expert.  Thanks, Lyndon! 

 

By the way, you can follow me on Twitter if you'd like, and I promise not to tell you what I had for lunch. And regardless, I still think you should reserve your brand name or company name on Twitter even if you don't plan to use it, just in case.  -Dharmesh

 

 

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Posted by Dharmesh Shah on Thu, Jun 12, 2008 @ 11:47 AM

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I'd add, though, that it's not just about your customer base being on twitter - it's about your industry peers. I've been able to connect with really great people in the blogging/social media marketing world via twitter which really helps in terms of (1) staying on top of the social media world and sharing interesting relevant info, and (2) connecting about potential media opportunities.
I admit I'm a twitter addict, but I was very skeptical at first. I've found it very beneficial to me in terms of connecting with prominent players in the social media world and also getting really valuable information (links, news, etc.).

posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 at 12:18 PM by Ellie Mirman


Ellie: I agree, it can be a great way to connect to industry peers -- if you're in the marketing/PR industry. I'm a bit of a Twitter guy myself, but Lyndon's points are well-taken:
For typical business people, there are better places to spend time. I'd argue that you are atypical. :)

posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 at 12:26 PM by Dharmesh Shah


Here is another article from the HubSpot Blog about how to use Twitter for marketing and PR that people might enjoy.
http://blog.hubspot.com/blog/tabid/6307/bid/4034/How-to-Use-Twitter-for-Marketing-PR.aspx
And clearly from that article that I wrote, I have a slightly different opinion of Twitter. Look for a future blog post to continue the debate.

posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 at 12:42 PM by Mike Volpe


I think Ellie's point that other you can connect with other industry professionals through Twitter is definitely worth taking note of. I have used twitter as a tool to continue to build connections with people whom I can grow with.
Also through Twitter I've formed connections with people that I simply wouldn't have access to outside of the world of Twitter. It's difficult to hold a conversation with Lee Odden and Guy Kawasaki, but through Twitter I have been able to ask these gurus questions and gain valuable insight.
Again, Twitter, like most social networks and online applications are tools. If you don't use the tool properly, you won't see results. If you go in thinking about how you'd like to utilize the tool and learn how to utilize it for your benefit, then your time spent will relate to profit more equitably.

posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 at 12:50 PM by Nick Inglis


My point is, those who inhabit the "blogging/social media marketing world" are not normal. I don't mean that offensively as it's my world. But next time when you are in line at the Supermarket buying leafy vegetables, ask those around you if they twitter.
The reason this is important is that if your target demographic is not on Twitter, it's a waste of time you being on it.
As I said, hang out where your customers hang out. If that happens to be Twitter, then that's where you need to be.

posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 at 1:12 PM by Lyndon


I agree that Twitter is addictive but it's not just for geeks, much less "ubergeeks". I'm an academic rat, not a techno junkie, and I'm a Twitter convert. And I'm slowly bringing in others into the fold...they don't know what they're in for.

posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 at 2:17 PM by Liz


If Internet years are measured in months or days, Twitter has had a life time to make the leap to the mass majority. Pay attention now because what I have to say is worth interrupting what you are doing no matter how important. “I’m at Starbucks getting coffee”, “I’m getting on a plane”, “I’m riding my mountain bike”.
Twitter people, if you need the service for validation, turn off the device, go outside and try to interact without using or talking about technology. Time yourself and see how long it takes for you to go into withdraw.

posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 at 2:39 PM by John


short immediate response is this don't use twitter first, use Tweetscan to determine if there is dialouge around your issues. Don't be so narrow minded to only be focusing on buyers, Consider other individuals like bloggers, mainstream journalists, community leaders etc.
Then one general statement about Twitter. If you have no time to build relationships stay away, you'll make it easier to find the real value in the system.

posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 at 2:46 PM by Albert Maruggi


Yes, twitter can connect you to industry peers, but it is usually a pretty shallow connection. I wouldn't put too much emphasis on the value of twitter relationships unless you work in the social media field.

posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 at 3:37 PM by Rob


Just because my "customer base" might not be using Twitter doesn't mean it doesn't have a business purpose.
What if many of my smartest competitors and colleagues use Twitter? What if the leading-edge industry analysts and reporters are on there? What if I use Twitter to monitor breaking news and stories from my local area and around the world?
When you suggest that building up a large following on Twitter might not be the best use of one's time, you're narrowly focusing on an assumption that adding value is a "numbers game" -- the larger the better, and if it ain't big, it ain't worth it.
That's simply not true.
And the "my peers are on Twitter" argument is true for far more than just the marketing and PR types, as you suggested in a comment above. Aside from that group and the obvious Web/startup crowd, I see huge groups of business-software developers, media/analyst types, politicians and the like, and more. Not to mention that every single person is a mother or father or driver or insurance buyer or TV watcher or book reader or...
I'm under no illusion that Twitter has "gone mainstream" and that it's the ultimate solution to any marketing challenge. But this post strikes me as ignorant and short-sighted. I've come to expect better from Hubspot. You all are generally smarter than this.

posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 at 6:27 PM by Mike Keliher


Thanks to everyone for your comments.
Clearly, the article has struck a bit of a chord with folks (including some HubSpot folks).
Candidly, I struggled to resist the temptation to edit this article (it was guest authored and I did not pick the "leaning" of the article, nor did I change it). I've always found Lyndon to be smart and opinionated -- and my opinion has not changed.
I almost put a disclaimer up top that the opinions expressed in the article don't necessarily reflect those of HubSpot -- but I find such disclaimers to be a vacuous.
If anyone is interested in writing a "rebuttal" article, feel free to reach out. Would love to collaborate on that too. I might even write one myself.
Until then, thanks for the rich discussion.

posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 at 6:48 PM by Dharmesh Shah


Look at the number of dormant and dead accounts. Customers who found no value. If John Q. Public can't figure it out, it flopped or it is just too hard. If you need Tweetscan to find value in Twitter. twitter failed in its mission.
Read "Don't Make Me Think", a book on interface design and apply it to Twitter.

posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 at 7:02 PM by John


a few businesses had some early success with myspace. This made every marketing hack in the country think that they have to jump on every SNS and social media app or site.
Any company that has a twitter account, in my estimation, is probably burning through their funding. Simply, it's off-task.

posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 at 8:50 PM by Andy Fox


A personal note: I really need to stop using the word "ignorant" so haphazardly, especially when it's mostly just the case that the person I'm calling "ignorant" just has a different point of view than me.
Sorry.
But I still stand by most of what I wrote above!

posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 at 9:51 PM by Mike Keliher


the truth is that i have tried it and i don't find it useful at all. here in Greece is almost impossible that any of our customers use twitter so we don't use it anymore

posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 at 5:51 AM by istioselida


This is mainly in response to istioselida's comments but it can be used by everyone. To find out if people in your country are using Twitter you can go to http://twittervision.com This is an interactive worldwide map that shows you what folks are twittering about and where they are located.

posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 at 8:44 AM by Sharon Bray-McPherson


I agree, Twitter isn't for everyone as it is still in the "early" stages of its life as it definitely has its ups and downs. IMHO, it is a good tool for building relationships, devising short communication to someone you are just getting to know and learning a lot about people in your field.
As a PR pro, I can communicate and learn a lot about my clients like HubSpot, reporters and like-minded PR/Marketing folks, which in the long run helps me do a better job.

posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 at 4:55 PM by Liz Laneri


For now, for business use, I just subscribe to search result feeds fromwww.summize.com for stuff I want to track (product names, company names, my own name, etc.), monitor that through RSS, and then move on.

posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 at 1:49 PM by Jonah Lopin


Nice linkbaiting exercise. Glad your "expert" was able to help you with that. God knows how important traffic is these days.

posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 at 3:27 PM by Weave


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